I'm so frightened for Truddles, her last comment has got me worried for her safety. I don't know what to do, I don't want her to end it all! Truddles, if you're there please stay with us!
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UnregisteredFri Mar 26 2010 20:20:38 # -
Hiya Helz, I know it's hard trying to support a friend. Trudy honey, if your reading this, I have read your last post just a second ago. I know you may not want to do this, but it's just a suggestion ok. Right now you just need someone to talk to. you can ring the Samartians, 08457 90 90 90 , they are there 24/7. if you feel suicidal remember they may have to breach their code of confidence if your are feeling suicidal, and ask you if you need help, ie. an ambulance to take you the hospital just to make sure your ok and have someone to talk to you.
Please think about ringing them, if only to talk about your feelings.
Helz I understand at times like these, we can all feel helpless, but hopefully Trudy will get help if only to talk to someone who will listen.Pam
Fri Mar 26 2010 21:45:26 # -
UnregisteredI have since received a PM from Trudy, so she is holding on.
I'm still worried though. Thanks for your comment, Pam
Fri Mar 26 2010 21:58:49 # -
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Fri Mar 26 2010 22:08:17 # -
Helz,
Try not to get too emotionally involved. Its important to step back and realize that we really have no power to help anyone...we can offer love and support, but at the end it is up to them to make the choice to accept it or not. Unfortunately we can only type our words of encouragement and hope for the best, but you musnt feel responsible if someone decides that what you offer is not enough and decide to give up. What you have to offer is wonderful, generous, and certainly uplifting and more than enough for a person who is ready to accept it...Trudy is just not in a place to accept it right now and that is no fault of yours, mine, OCDAction, doctors or anyone else...its a result of depression associated with her other ailments and OCD. I dont believe Trudy will ever give up. I think she cycles through these moods and will bounce back as usual. I have been there as have many others. Meds can help sometimes...but she needs to get into therapy. She also needs to find the strength to get herself to the doctor despite the OCD. The excuse for these other ailments is that they cannot be treated because of the OCD. I think she CAN go to the doctor, but WONT go and OCD is the excuse. I'm not criticising her for that...I've been there too...but there comes a point where we have to accept that we DO have a choice even though it feels like we dont. Yes its burning torment to go somewhere uncomfortable, but it will not kill us...whereas NOT doing it WILL kill us. Its a terrible delima...we turn from the very things that will help us and keep ourselves trapped. Its up to us to find the strength to walk through fire....no one can do it for us. Come on Trudy...help Helz see what power we all have within to conquer this thing!Sat Mar 27 2010 15:46:15 # -
Right let's get a few facts straight: Trudy is in a place right now to accept treatment - Trudy's just not getting any and as a result has become severely depressed and frustrated.
Yes, with the OCD as it is at this point I can't manage an admission. But I have asked repeatedly for help to facilitate my being able to manage and I can't get any help. Also both the neurologists wants my OCD a little better controlled before I have the admission and agree I need further help with the OCD. But no one offers to arrange for me to get any help.
I do go to the doctors, it's not my fault they just keep passing me onto the next without treatment. It doesn't help that they don't accurately record what I tell them.
I'm not using the OCD as an excuse not to get treatment - they're using it as the excuse for not treating me.
I do go to the doctors and I don't use my OCD as an excuse not to go, even though it makes me really ill getting there.
I have asked even pleaded for treatment and don't get any.
If I weren't strong I wouldn't be here today as given the past few years I've not just walked through a fire I've walked through a raging inferno.
Yes, I agree the OCD wont kill me, but untreated the epilepsy and hypos could! Only this week I fell down the stairs and injured myself again!
So please don't criticise anyone without being sure of your facts.
Sat Mar 27 2010 16:33:15 # -
Sorry - I wanted to change the last line of my previous post, but had a partial seizure and accidentally sent it rather than amend it - thanks epilepsy
I wanted the last line to read:
Please can we not criticise others without being sure of all our facts. It hurts to be told that you're using the OCD as an excuse when you've done everything you can to get treatment and still they refuse to provide you with any treatment.Sat Mar 27 2010 16:46:18 # -
UnregisteredI hope I didn't upset you by posting this, Trudy, I just felt really scared and desperate.
Sat Mar 27 2010 17:13:34 # -
UnregisteredI'm glad.
Btw, I just posted a topic announcing my break from the forum. I'll still be PMing, just not posting/commenting.
Sat Mar 27 2010 17:22:38 # -
Mama you seem to have a habbbit of thinking we all have a choice and generally thinking you know best. You upset me last week and you have done excatly the same to Trudy today. To be honest I think your thread in relation to Trudy, was rude, patronising, lacked empathy and was hurtful to Trudy. Maybe you need to read the threads of support that Trudy has posted since she has been a member and then you might realise how hurtful you have been.
Sat Mar 27 2010 17:26:29 # -
Just a thought, Trudy, but have you tried contacting MIND or SANE? I think it's sometimes possible for them to sort out unhelpful MHTs. And unlike PALS, they aren't required to take the MHT's word for it if they say there isn't a problem.
I'm so sorry to hear you're still in such a mess. What do these doctors think they're paid for?
All the best,
WombatSat Mar 27 2010 19:33:52 # -
UnregisteredMama, You said that Trudy needs to get into therapy. But that’s exactly what Trudy is pleading for, or rather a continuation of the therapy that doctors realize is necessary in order for her to receive medical treatment for other conditions.
You also say “I have been there as have many others”. WRONG!!! No-one has ever been in exactly the same place as another, and unless you share the medical problems Trudy endures, you haven’t even been close.
Please can we get back to the purpose of this forum, which is not patronizing each other. We are all individuals who share a common illness. However, the way this affects us is compounded by other conditions. This all makes our experiences very individual. As do our family situations, the doctors we see etc etc.
Let us stop judging!
Mon Mar 29 2010 13:15:06 # -
UnregisteredHi all
Ok, I was not going to post on this forum again so as not to jeopardise the project in any way. I really wanted to remain neutral. But this thread is literally tearing the forum apart. Worst of all my wonderful project partner (Joyce) has left as a result of what has been said.
I personally think that everyone who has hurt Trudy, or has run down the NHS or any of its members or this wonderful forum and its advocacy service should apologise (as Bingo generously did) and that this matter should then be closed. That way we will not lose any more precious members.
Trudy needs your support and not all this haggling. So please send her PMs and emails and give her the strength she needs to start fighting her OCD again. Trudy is a truly remarkable lady and I feel sure she can beat it with the right help. So please help her in the way that she needs.
Thanks
AnneMon Mar 29 2010 14:49:58 # -
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