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lishuishui
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i have metioned my symtoms on precedent messages.my case is ocd-[probable] with mild mania-never depression.and it fluctuates with time difference,and rhythm of day and night.and the Urticaria normally goes it with.

Mon Aug 11 2008 15:21:10 #
lishuishui
Member

it seems my conditions is quiet different from your case at least include 30 visitors.however i really suffer the ocd with physical symtoms called hives.

Wed Aug 13 2008 13:18:21 #
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I mentioned people I know whose OCD fluctuates over weeks/months (in another thread of yours). I still can't think of anyone whose symptoms change throughout each day. Have you discussed this with a psychiatrist? Hives can certainly be triggered by stress, and that seems to be occurring with you. This is not really relevant, but I found it fascinating. Last night I was reading one of Deepak Chopra's books. In one chapter he wrote of a young boy with multiple personalities. One of his personalities developed hives when he drank orange juice. The other personalities didn't. He could even change personalities as he was drinking orange and the hives would immediately appear or disappear, depending which personality was coming or going. I'm not for one moment suggesting that you have multiple personalities! I just found it amazing how the mind can affect the body in such a way.

If I were you I would ask a professional about this. If it's all right with you, I would like to ask an OCD expert whether he has come across symptoms like yours.

Love, Tricia.

Thu Aug 14 2008 9:08:23 #
lishuishui
Member

hi tricia;
i have heede my ocd symtoms are trigged by hives probably caused by called neurotransmitter histamine.please refer thread article wroten by activemind on may 22 2008 and article named: folic acid bad for ocd sufferers??please read the my reply on this article. i think the histamine will prohaps play very important role on my ocd-of course it bring about the hives conditions immediately.specially histamine has 4 kink of receptor.and H3 receptor is not found yet as far.

Thu Aug 14 2008 16:34:36 #
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As soon as I get a spare moment I will read the thread you referred to. Tricia x

Fri Aug 15 2008 14:59:19 #
lishuishui
Member

please ,thanks.tricia

Sat Aug 16 2008 14:50:31 #
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Dear Lishuishui, I have read the thread you mentioned and replied to it. I hope that Ian has noticed an improvement. Hopefully he will let us know. I am going to research this more and discuss folic acid, histamine and your fluctuating symptoms (and urticaria) with a specialist who may have some answers. I may be wrong, but I feel if only you could discover what is triggering your symptoms you may be able to experience longer good periods, hopefully be cured of your OCD altogether. Obviously your brain is reacting as it is for a reason. I will get back to you as soon as I hear anything of interest. Also the mania might be controlled.

By the way, have you ever drastically adjusted your diet? As your good periods are at night, I was wondering if certain foods could contain something that affects you during the day. When do the hives and stress begin, upon waking or later, after eating? I have to admit that I was at my healthiest when on a raw food only diet. My OCD didn't leave me but was more controllable, my general health and energy levels were so much better. I have chronic fatigue syndrome and that seemed 95% better when I lived on raw foods only. I was made to feel that I didn't fit in with the rest of my family and I returned to a more normal diet. Quite quickly I became ill again.

Love, Tricia.

Mon Aug 18 2008 13:10:58 #
lishuishui
Member

hi.tricia;
i'd like to present two interesting phenomena;1.when i take more and even if oversleep -12 hours turn within a day[24hours]after 1-2hour as i'm getting up .my ocd will be certainly become worse.-by the way i often sleep overtime ,although i know this is a very bad habit.2,normally my ocd symtoms gets lighter,after i hike for 2,5-3,5km.and at very begining of strolling i often feel weak and feeble in my physical and meanwhile instead of there are a lot of ideas and messed thought, fancies surge in my brain they surge in my head ,however the very interesting matters occur,with my hiking more and long my physical becomes more and more powverful and energetic intsead of in my brain become clamer and clamer and those restive storm-like ideas get less and less .

Tue Aug 19 2008 16:08:55 #
lishuishui
Member

hi.tricia;
i'd like to present two interesting phenomena;1.when i take more and even if oversleep -12 hours turn within a day[24hours]after 1-2hour as i'm getting up .my ocd will be certainly become worse.-by the way i often sleep overtime ,although i know this is a very bad habit.2,normally my ocd symtoms gets lighter,after i hike for 2,5-3,5km.and at very begining of strolling i often feel weak and feeble in my physical and i dislike to move my body any more and meanwhile instead of there are a lot of ideas and messed thought, fancies surge in my brain they surge in my head ,however the very interesting matters occur,with my hiking more and long my physical becomes more and more powverful and energetic intsead of in my brain become clamer and clamer and those restive storm-like ideas get less and less .

Tue Aug 19 2008 16:12:59 #
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Dear Lishuishui, I can identify with both your findings and I'm sure many others will be able to, also. Too much sleep is definitely not good and exercise is well documented for relieving OCD symptoms. Like you, I can feel physically weak and my mind can be obsessing badly. The weakness makes it tempting to avoid exercise, especially when I am also depressed, but invariably the exercise alleviates the weakness and the obsessions lessen (the depression also improves). This must be due to chemicals in the brain, which are released during exercise. I wonder if endorphins are mainly responsible for the change? They are released during exercise and act as natural painkillers.

I believe almost every OCD book I have read has mentioned the benefits of exercise. Even Dr Samuel Johnson (an OCD sufferer) spoke of it back in the 1700s. Maybe we all need to train as marathon runners?!

How long after your hike does it take for your obsessions to return? Also, have you tried to meditate when your hives and stress are severe? I realize that would be the hardest time to meditate, but if you practise meditating to certain music when you are more relaxed you may find eventually that your brain switches into relaxed mode as soon as the music begins. I have put my favourite, most relaxing pieces of music onto a CD and I find it acts like self hypnosis now.

Love, Tricia.

Wed Aug 20 2008 12:59:18 #
lishuishui
Member

hi;tricia;
thanks for you pay a close attention to my thread.yes my hike can relieve my symtoms at begining of hike i'm in more severe obsession thought and mood,and at the same time i'm too weak and frail to be willing to move and exercise and have physical training,however ,after i finish my hike [normally i walke faster and faster with my stroll going on] and my pace is getting bigger and bigger. my psychological conditions coincide with my physical change to become more and more normally,obsession almost vanish -when i end my hike.its to say my mental capacity [power] change into my physical energy.
my this case make me to associate one neurological dicease; myotonica congenita,also called Thomsen dicease.if you are interesing in further infos about ocd and this dicease relation,you can refer to this dicease on neurology..this dicease's symtom becomes lighter and lighter after getting movement and exercise ,and the dicease has also depession and obsession.and i feel my sympathetic nervous system does is in dysfunction-before the movement i feel very lazy faint and weak,however completing my hike i become to trend and predispose to exercise. and .only i have no any depreesion at all.however.

Wed Aug 20 2008 17:50:41 #
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Dear Lishuishui, I will look up Myotonia Congenita. Also, I will get back to you with any comments the specialist I mentioned has to make about your symptoms. I will be seeing him next month.

Love, Tricia.

Sat Aug 23 2008 16:14:29 #
lishuishui
Member

hi tricia.
please tell your phsychiastist my this ocd special which i describe it very specific and detailed in threads two ;rediagonise for me .please and thanks once again.

Wed Aug 27 2008 11:23:10 #
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I'll find out all I can. I won't forget you! I've printed some of your messages to take with me.

Love, Tricia.

Wed Aug 27 2008 14:02:28 #
lishuishui
Member

hi tricia;
thanks a lot for your enthusiastic help.i will go here more frequent.

Thu Aug 28 2008 15:18:09 #
lishuishui
Member

hi tricia;
when will you get back me question?i'm fevent and earnest to know some infos about histamine such as its biological activities and the role which play in physiology.sepcially i'm interesting in h3 receptor data i wonder where does it locate in body site and its physiological mechanism and activities.look forward to active and positive response to me soonest.

Tue Sep 2 2008 16:30:16 #
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Dear Lishuishui, I won't be seeing the specialist I spoke about until the end of the month, but don't worry, I promise I will discuss all the symptoms and concerns you have written about. I won't forget and I will let you know what he says. Love, Tricia.

Wed Sep 3 2008 13:30:07 #
lishuishui
Member

hi; tricia;

today is oct first.how about my concerns ?i'm thirst for your therapist and you enqury about my concerns i mentioned it begining of step. please to me soonest

Wed Oct 1 2008 12:56:52 #
lishuishui
Member

hi; tricia;

today is oct first.how about my concerns ?i'm thirst for your therapist and you enqury about my concerns i mentioned it begining of step. please to me soonest

Wed Oct 1 2008 12:57:39 #
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Dear Lishuishui, I realize the date and I feel badly about it. It isn't that I have forgotten you, far from it, in fact I always include you in my healing prayers at 7.00PM. I have been struggling with various problems and haven't yet been to see the specialist. I didn't have a set appointment, it was more a social call, but I had intended to visit him before now. However, I won't forget you! How are you doing, has there been any change? Are you keeping up with your hikes that helped you?

Love, Tricia.

Thu Oct 2 2008 11:48:00 #
lishuishui
Member

tricia,i very disappointed on you careless,before i attached very importance to your help and expect all of problem can be resolved and understanded those confused question on me .if you can help me please be carefully and restrictlly answer my reqquest i askecd for you .if no please foget it .i wonder certain reply you will make for me

Fri Oct 3 2008 9:47:30 #
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I am sorry that you are disappointed in me. You have seemed impatient with me at times, but I have always remained patient and understanding with you. I am extremely ill with my own severe OCD symptoms and on top of that I have had physical health problems. I had fully intended to visit the specialist next week, despite my own problems making this very difficult, I was going to do this because I didn't want to let you down. Now you have opened my eyes, once again, to the incredibly selfish attitude of some with OCD. Did you not stop to consider that I might be suffering, too. Maybe even more than you!

I come here most days, despite my problems, thinking I may be of help. Careless, am I? Well, no more! I am going to care very much; for my family, for those friends close to me and for myself. So, I'll go for your last option; I'll forget it!

I am also a little upset that no-one else has responded to this latest reply of yours. Where's a little support when you need it?! I was told that I behave like a door mat, by a teacher, thrity-five years ago. I despair at human nature that so many will use others and wipe their feet all over them.

Sun Oct 5 2008 12:16:31 #
brennie
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lishuisheiu, you have no idea how much your harsh words may have affected my dear friend Tricia, for your information this very special lady who you are slagging for not giving you too much attention is very severely ill herself , most times she finds it difficult to cope with herself so the fact that she was even speaking to you answering your fears and trying to understand your problems may have been enough for her to cope with at this difficult time for her !!
It has taken alot for Tricia to put a closure on you Lishuisheiu but you have only your stupid impatience to blame for this, eventually Tricia would have got round to helping you and seeking advice , she has been the most supportive friend i have ever had the privilage of knowing, she rings me and other forum users regular and WHY does she do this ?? because she cares too much for other peoples feelings even though she suffers much more than most of us.
So please dont under estimate mydearfriend Tricia ... if she could of helped you sooner with your request she would have done her utmost best to do it for you, YOU cant expect someone as severley ill as Tricia to jump through hoops im ediately for you ..... Its not all about you is it !
You wont anyone else to give you the attention this sweet lady has given you.

Brennie

Sun Oct 5 2008 17:59:02 #
stevieb
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[quote="Tricia":bd9gz926]I am sorry that you are disappointed in me. You have seemed impatient with me at times, but I have always remained patient and understanding with you. I am extremely ill with my own severe OCD symptoms and on top of that I have had physical health problems. I had fully intended to visit the specialist next week, despite my own problems making this very difficult, I was going to do this because I didn't want to let you down. Now you have opened my eyes, once again, to the incredibly selfish attitude of some with OCD. Did you not stop to consider that I might be suffering, too. Maybe even more than you!

I come here most days, despite my problems, thinking I may be of help. Careless, am I? Well, no more! I am going to care very much; for my family, for those friends close to me and for myself. So, I'll go for your last option; I'll forget it!

I am also a little upset that no-one else has responded to this latest reply of yours. Where's a little support when you need it?! I was told that I behave like a door mat, by a teacher, thrity-five years ago. I despair at human nature that so many will use others and wipe their feet all over them.

Sorry Tricia, if I had any idea what was going on, I would have supported you, but what with my work hours and tiredness, I can't spend as much time on here as I'd like.

I think you've been remarkably patient with lishuishi, and warned that person (male or female?) that you had to wait for information. Like you say, some people are too impatient and anxious, without consideration for yourself.

I think you took the right option, Tricia in forgetting them. Why should you go to all that trouble, and get no patience and gratitude in return? And I too despair at human nature sometimes.

Its refreshing to see people like yourself helping others, and most are grateful. Shame there's those who aren't.

Best wishes to you, anyway.

Steve xx

Mon Oct 6 2008 23:24:21 #
anxiousgal
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If I was Tricia I'd say 'sod her' because she did her best to help lishuishui and it doesn't appear to have worked out. If I came on here and somebody cheeked me like that I would be very angry and upset with them! So I think Tricia was right to put her in her place and tell her she can't just be nasty like that!

Luv Natasha

Tue Oct 7 2008 10:27:35 #
Jerama
Member

I wonder if Lishuishui fully understands what the board is about and who the people posting are. Clearly English is not her first language therefore there is the possibility that she has not really understood and was genuinely expecting "professional" advice rather than comment and help from fellow sufferers. A long shot, I agree, but nevertheless a possibility.

Jerama

Tue Oct 7 2008 10:48:57 #
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Jerama, Lishuishui knows I am a fellow sufferer and not a professional. I have said more in the other thread on this subject, but thank you all so much for your messages. When I am feeling better I will come back to the board, I need a break, but will be thinking of you.

And Lishuishui, if you are reading this, I will still ask the questions, but only when it is the right time for me to make the journey to this person. I'm sorry if that's too late for you. I had apologized for not going when I said. I couldn't help being too ill to go.

Love, Tricia.

Tue Oct 7 2008 13:04:54 #
lishuishui
Member

tricia,thanks a lot for you apology to me i will not blame you at all ,because of your so severe conditions .i can identify with your mood and mind as fellow membership .please take care yourself carefully and continue to keep you in better mood and state .

Wed Oct 8 2008 12:17:17 #
brennie
Member

Lishuishui, it is very nice of Tricia to apologies to you when she was not at fault.

But as yet i have not read your apology for upsetting her.

Brennie

Thu Oct 9 2008 12:33:33 #
lishuishui
Member

Brennie; i feel your word and action is very like Chairman Mao and his called criticism meeting .and as for Maoism and who is the chairman mao everybody in this world will know them i believe it.so i above tomake any response to you .as for tricia i'm very pathetic her and her severe symtoms .i think she will do her best for my concers if her conditions allow she to do it.

Sat Oct 11 2008 10:49:16 #