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  • Started 1 year ago by blueboy
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  1. hi all
    i know some of you might find my posts freakish... but this is the nature of my ocd...
    i have posted before about my continual obsession around an incident years ago...in which i believe i harmed someone (ocd belief)and you will know what i mean by that...but for those of us who also have strong spiritual beliefs , based on actual fact...ie; having had experiences of a supernatural kind..we are faced with even more dilemmas than straight forward ocd... (if you will forgive the phrase)i ill cut to the chase... Two years after my ocd incident... in france ..centred around harming a person.. i went to see a psychic... back home.... and one question he put to me... was ..what happenned at 25? now that could mean a lot of things..open to conjecture.. but that was the year.. i had that ocd problem...so i was totaly shocked and began to cover up quickly...saying... i have no idea...(yet i knew what he meant)... i know not everyone will understand this.... but can you see how that adds extra.. credence to my ocd fears? that maybe there is real magic out there..and that our thoughts are justified? very scarey...but thats how bad now my ocd is...anyone understand this?

    Mon Feb 7 2011 19:29:01 #
  2. Yes I can understand how when your OCD beleifs are strong that you look for evidence to back them up whatever they are. I do believe in the spiritual but if this person really knew anything then they would have known already and not needed to ask. Also, if you do believe that he knew something if that was the year your ocd started then equally he could have been picking up on that. Personally i think a lot of psychics are just charletans (sorry can't spell that). I frequently find myself looking for evidence to justify my ocd thoughts, but that doesn't necessarily make it true. but i understand you making connections. Are you having treatment for your ocd i can't remember?

    Mon Feb 7 2011 19:42:38 #
  3. no, not having treatment ...awaiting cbt

    Mon Feb 7 2011 20:17:10 #
  4. I am a very spiritual person (not religious) but deeply spiritual. Something which gives me great strength and always re-focuses my energy in a positive direction is "The Secret" buy it on DVD or watch the one time play on the website.

    It would take too long to explain it here, but basically it talks about the power of attracting what you focus on. It may or may not resonate with you, but it's worth a try. Hope CBT happens soon for you, and never forget - these thoughts are just ocd trying to control you through the fact that you only worry about having harmed someone because you are a good decent person who never would. That's the irony of this thing.

    Good luck.

    Mon Feb 7 2011 21:42:43 #
  5. thanks... but i couldnt understand how he could get that year ..the year that ocd really took over me...up until then i had kept it at bay...
    also he told me stuff that came true..he did my tarot cards..and i had originaly been to a lady psychic who... was very good too... much of her predictions have come true to date... then i returned to her and she said to me..."you've been to another psychic and what he told you was a load of bull.."
    i was pleased about that ,because he did say that my life would end suddenly ,ie; by accident..but yet some predictions of his were true..she said i had a very long life.... and another guy i visited more recently..said to me "you're not going to die" ...he said 84 and you are still here and on it goes..i guess they see that from the lifeline ...and i have a very long line..(for me line of suffering)... i have had supernatural experiences, quite apart from my ocd... and i know they were real..so for some of us life is even more a struggle....hope someone comprehends this..and i appreciate both replies here..

    Wed Feb 9 2011 13:42:46 #
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    I feel almost the same as Jo. I don’t actually believe that most psychics are charlatans, but I do feel that that many are self-deluded. This was the view of Michael Bentine, after he and his family spent years studying the paranormal, meeting with many mediums etc.

    As a young woman I was one of the biggest sceptics and I am ashamed to say I actually mocked my sister-in-law (behind her back, but nonetheless unkind, and extremely arrogant) for her belief in mediums and her conviction that life is preordained.

    However, seeing is believing and I have since met psychics who have astonished me with their accuracy. I ridiculed the first one, a stranger on a train, as did a school friend of mine, but many details of our lives were predicted, from the births of our children (her first two were born eighteen years apart and this was predicted) to my OCD. This stranger also told my friend she was pregnant with a boy, even though she was unaware of this herself.

    Aronralstonismyhero, Coincidentally, ‘The Secret’ was recommended to me last week. I think I will order it. I (or my OCD) became convinced that I was possessed by some dark entity, because everywhere I went I would find myself facing the things I feared. Even my family (who have no spiritual beliefs) would comment that I attract bad luck etc. This reinforced my fear. Shop assistants regularly dropped my purchases or credit card on the floor, even while I was willing them not to.

    I spoke to friends with OCD and we all agreed that this is more than just a case of us noticing when these things happen (whereas a person without fears would not pay as much attention). Bad luck really does seem to follow us. I spoke to a very genuine spiritualist about these things. She was doubtful about dark entities etc, but she gave another very logical explanation and your message, Aron, made me recall her words - the power of attracting what we focus on. She said OCD is extremely negative (don’t we know it!) and this will cause negative things to occur. My fear that a person will drop something of mine, is likely to make this happen.

    Paradoxically, the majority of people with OCD appear to be extremely positive in outlook, despite our condition, but, as yet, I have not been able to focus on the positive when I am so afraid outside my home. It is a constant battle between us and the OCD. Fear is negative, I am not sure how we can turn that around.

    Paul, My mother read the tarot cards for me when I was pregnant. I still recall the look on her face. Only recently has she told me what she saw. My mother is a very honest person, and so much of what has happened to me was in those cards. I am rather apprehensive now of ‘dabbling’.

    As we have discussed before, our spiritual believes can be uplifting and very comforting, but, when combined with OCD, there is the negative side, too. As yet I have not found a way to deal with this successfully.

    Thu Feb 10 2011 13:04:13 #
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    P.S. Paul I was warned about a certain year (before it occurred). I’ll explain more when we speak, but the psychic in question was picking up on the distress I was to experience due to my OCD, not an actual event or deed.

    Thu Feb 10 2011 15:40:35 #
  8. Hi Paul, its co-incidental that this topic has occured because i visited a psychic on wednesday afternoon....she was amazing. I have been seeing this lady for years and i believe in the spirit world emmensely.
    Hope you are o.k. Paul
    Love Brennie x

    Thu Feb 10 2011 17:22:47 #
  9. Hi Paul, its co-incidental that this topic has occured because i visited a psychic on wednesday afternoon....she was amazing. I have been seeing this lady for years and i believe in the spirit world emmensely.
    Hope you are o.k. Paul
    Love Brennie x

    Thu Feb 10 2011 17:24:22 #
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    Bren dear, it is so good to see you here!
    Love, Tricia x

    Fri Feb 11 2011 12:38:08 #
  11. Same from me, Brennie! How are you doing?

    Sun Feb 13 2011 21:35:09 #
  12. Oh, and as regards what Blueboy said. I couldn't think of anything to say before, but I have now:
    If magic-type things really do exist (and I've had quite a few funny things happen to me), that only puts magical-thinking fears on a level with other OCD fears - which is a pretty low level. Germs exist. HIV exists. Murderers exist. That's not really what you'd call evidence that any of them will ever kill you.

    Personally I haven't much time for the Law of Attraction, at least in the form in "The Secret". The fact is, if being afraid of something really could make it happen, this forum would be seriously underpopulated by now as most of us would be dropping like flies from typhoid/HIV/rabies/meteorites, according to taste! Also, there is the small point that the author of "The Secret" claims that she owes her good looks to her use of this principle. The photo on the back cover shows her looking like an old bag lady!

    Sun Feb 13 2011 21:44:31 #
  13. Wombat, your post has reminded me of one of my husband's chat up lines in the supermarket. He looks at the sign which says 'pull your bag here' and says to the girl behind the till 'do you think it's a good idea to be sitting next to that sign?'
    Sorry to break a serious post but humour is so good for us.

    Mon Feb 14 2011 10:10:58 #
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    Wombat, I've been reading reviews of 'The Secret' and many say it's rubbish. I have to admit that some of the remarks have really put me off buying it! In one product review it states: ‘…reveal The Secret that utterly transformed the lives of every person who ever knew it…‘ Included in the list is Beethoven…’ Maybe the writer was referring to Beethoven discovering the secret to wonderful music, because the poor man didn’t seem to discover the secret to happiness, love or to recovering his hearing.

    I was also incredibly impressed with someone who appears to have the opposing view. She actually claims the culture of positive thinking can have a downside, causing people who don’t respond to treatment etc to feel despondent and responsible for having the wrong attitude. I have a copy of her book 'Smile or Die'.

    My parents are a classic case of laws of attraction and positive thinking going awry. I never met a more positive man than my father - always optimistic, the glass always half full. My mother is the total opposite. My mother has experienced more success in life. Both suffered cancer. My father was convinced he would beat it, my mother equally sure she would not. My father saw himself as a survivor, my mother didn’t believe she would reach retirement age. Dad died of his cancer at 67. Mum (still adamant she will die of her cancer) is still going strong at 87.

    Having said all that, I am still concerned by how many times cashiers drop my goods and credit cards! It is more than mere coincidence.

    Tess, Your husband is extremely quick witted. What was the cashier's reply?!

    Mon Feb 14 2011 14:26:28 #
  15. Hi Tricia
    Thankfully the regular cashiers know his sense of humour and they usually just laugh, but sometimes he meets his match and gets an equally amusing insult in return. His other favourite chat up line at the checkout is to say to the cashier 'you're hair's looking nice today' and they beam at him at which point he says 'it'll be alright when it's finished'.

    Mon Feb 14 2011 18:47:35 #
  16. hahaha :)) that's funny

    Tue Feb 15 2011 5:11:58 #

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