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Labelled a Slob for Hoarding

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  • Latest reply from Cuthbert ffoliott
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    I don’t know if any of you remember a light-hearted thread I started back in the spring. It concerned my hoarding and inability to throw away used carrier bags without thoroughly checking them. As this can take hours per shopping trip, and has to be done outside in my underwear, they tend to pile up in the back porch. After tripping and missing the steps by the back door I landed amongst the soft bags and was fortunate to escape injury. I jokingly mentioned that hoarding has a purpose after all.

    It has just come to my attention that some people from the forum were referring to my behaviour (of hoarding carrier bags) as slobbish. I am so hurt by this. I can honestly say that in the five years I’ve been reading other people’s messages, I have never once judged them in this way. I have one friend who cannot wash or shower. I view him with deep empathy, I don’t regard him as a dirty slob. He is ill. I am ill.

    It’s not as if I am lazy and just choose to let things build up, I behave this way through fear. I am so afraid of throwing something important away and I am unable to keep up with all the demands of OCD as well as family life. I shall be very reluctant to post here again about my own problems.

    Sun Sep 12 2010 12:35:57 #
  2. Dear Tricia -

    let me ask you from the bottom of my heart: keep on posting. Labelling you as a slob is very, very unfair; I was named thus numerous times. I had exactly the same hoarding thing as you are reporting here. It's terrible. It never was as if I just thought: why remove it today? Why not tomorrow? Or next week?

    Just like you, I had to scrupulously go through all shopping and garbage bags before being able to throw anything away. In my old dwellings, I sometimes had 4 to 6 large garbage bags. I was so afraid of having unwillingly put something in there that was of personal value, that I had to sift diligently through their contents (coffee drab, food residues, well, all kinds of household dirt), before putting them on the sidewalk for having them collected.

    It was horrible, a nightmare. In the course of some 15+ years, I never found any object that I had put in the bags by accident, something of value.

    The situation has improved. But I can relate oh so well.

    Don't let anyone get you down because of a serious disorder. And, if you can find the courage: keep on writing or PM-ing. I have a deep respect for you being present here.

    Ciao, Cuthbert.

    Sun Sep 12 2010 12:45:45 #
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    Thank you, Cuthbert, for being so understanding. I've said this before, and people will be sick of my saying it, but there really is no condition like this for being judged.

    I'm really pleased that you have made progress.

    I'm not leaving the forum, I shall just be reluctant to mention certain things again.

    Tricia x

    Sun Sep 12 2010 12:56:50 #
  4. It saddens me to read a post from another member of the forum stating that they feel that they’ve been judged by others and so feel unable or reluctant to post again asking for help or support

    None of us should be afraid of posting for fear of being judged by others. The forum is here for us to help and support each other not to pass judgement. And as none of us can actually live anyone else’s life and so experience first hand the fear and anguish the other person’s OCD causes it’s wrong of us to pass judgement.

    OCD is such a varied and complex condition that even the same obsession will elicit totally different compulsions. It seems no two people have exactly the same response to the same obsession. We are all in the same boat and so must surely be able to empathise with the suffering caused by the obsessions and compulsions of others.

    I have sometimes read a post and thought how on earth could they do that? But only because I know that I couldn’t possibly do it, I immediately then think that they’d probably say exactly the same thing about my obsessions or compulsions. My obsessions and compulsions make perfect sense to me but not necessarily to others and the reverse is also true.

    We are all different and what one can easily cope with another might find completely abhorrent. Even those helping us with our OCD sometimes can't understand why we can do A but not B. For instance, when I go through the tills at the supermarket people just can’t understand (therapists included) why it is that the food items bar anything that might leak is packed straight into the shopping bags. BUT items such as loo rolls, tissues and all toiletries etc have to be packed into fresh carrier bags (not ones that have been out on the side) and then tied. Even the logical side of me finds it strange but the OCD side of me thinks it perfectly logical as items that I’m going to use to keep either me or the house clean have to remain ‘clean’. Once home they then have to remain in the bags until I need them so I can’t accidentally contaminate them.

    As for hoarding many of us that hoard do so because of our contamination OCD and for no other reason. We don’t do it by choice far from it. Ironically many of us that hoard cannot actually abide living with clutter and yet that’s how we end up living as our OCD fears are greater than our dislike of clutter.

    I have items that I perceive to be contaminated that I have put in plastic or carrier bags with the hope that one day I’ll be able to cope with them. It’s either that or throwing them out and I can neither afford it nor do I want to throw out anything of sentiment. BREAKING NEWS - Our CMHT psychologist reckons that if you throw away your ornaments it will cure the OCD
    In the past I have thrown things away because I’ve thought that they were contaminated at considerable cost, both financial and sentimental.
    But I also have items that to me are clean and they too are in plastic or carrier bags for fear that by touching them they will become contaminated.

    I’m the sort of person that likes a nice clean tidy house and so to live like this is humiliating and frustrating but the humiliation and frustration it causes is nothing compared with the sheer terror of trying to deal with it. Unfortunately it then gets to the point where it becomes so overwhelming that you just don’t know how to deal with the accumulated bags, boxes. I also have the added problem that I as can’t get out of the house without help I always have to ensure that I have spare necessities such as loo rolls, hand wash, baby wipes, shampoo etc which are kept in bags in stacked plastic boxes. I tried not keeping spares and came unstuck as the supermarket had run out of hand wash and then we had to try to get to the next supermarket in the allotted time. If I run out of anything I cannot just pop down the shops to replace it

    Like Cuthbert I too have to go through all the rubbish thoroughly before I can throw it for fear that I throw the wrong thing out. In the past I’ve thrown out things of importance or value. If I didn’t have help I fear it would just accumulate. In my flat there’s a lot that needs to be thrown but in the past was too afraid to (I’m talking about non perishables I hasten to add) and now it’s so overwhelming I just don’t know where I would begin and so it continues to accumulate. If the OCD stopped tomorrow I'd be able to go through the room and throw out the rubbish and stuff to go to the charity shop in next to no time but with the OCD the sheer terror of throwing out the wrong thing or contaminating things I find completely overwhelming. I am trying my best but it seems it's just not good enough as the OCD continually defeats me

    Tricia you are not slobbish, you don't hoard through choice but like me and many other hoarders because you're ill. Boy, OCD has a lot to answer for doesn't it?

    Many apologies for the length of this post. I tried condensing it but as you can see without much success

    Trudy

    Sun Sep 12 2010 16:58:21 #
  5. If we judge each other then what chance have we got of expecting acceptance from non ocd community

    Sun Sep 12 2010 17:17:26 #
  6. Ditto all the replies but here's my view ...

    I've learnt that what I find normal someone else might find strange and vice versa so who are we to judge others. There will always be someone quick to judge and it's usually those people who have insecurities about themselves. Judging others probably makes them feel better about themselves and that's sad.

    Please don't let some ignoramus stop you from posting on here

    Laura

    Sun Sep 12 2010 20:31:40 #
  7. Hi swan and Laura,

    I so agree with the both of you.

    Once again I must apologise for the length of my post

    Sun Sep 12 2010 20:51:35 #
  8. Thanks for the various replies to Tricia's initial post. Truddles' lenghty story is so accurate that it might be included in textbooks, so: Trudy, I do not accept your apologies!

    To all: I love you.

    Ciao, Cuthbert.

    Mon Sep 13 2010 7:12:34 #

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