OCD Action

swan
Member

Could you let us know how ocdaction intends responding to the govement green paper which ccould effect the benifits of all those with a disability inv=cluding people with OCD.
See below.

The Shaping the Future of Care Green Paper published by the DWP and the Department of Health on 14th July sets out government plans to get rid of Attendance Allowance and, depending on public reaction, also leaves the way clear to end the Care Component of DLA. Personal Expenses Allowance (PEA), Carers allowance are also looked at for change. The purpose of this green paper is to give the money to social services for them to use as they see fit, this will take away many people's independence and in addition many people will slip through the net

To gain further information follow the folloing internet link

Link removed - see post below. Caps, moderator

Teresa

Tue Aug 11 2009 15:50:04 #
Nimrod
Key Master

I will pass this on to the trustees and post a reply on the forum as soon as I can.

Caps

Wed Aug 12 2009 8:53:19 #
Moocher
Member

There was a thing at the top of the link that said "Please go to our current homepage" and I was stupid enough to click on it. That's that illegal site isn't it, where people who are trying to claim disability fraudulently go to get tips on how to swindle the Social Security. I've heard about it in the newspaper. What on earth did you tell people to click on that link for? I get incapacity and I just hope they aren't monitoring who's visiting the site. Now they could think I'm pulling a fast one when I've never used that site. I feel dirty now. Can't believe I was stupid enough to click on it. And it's a site you have to pay for as well. That was very misleading telling people to click the link to see details on how they might be going to get their benefits stopped and then finding they are on an illegal site for con-merchants. I hope that link will be removed so that others don't click on it.

Edited by Caps:
The links referred to have been removed due to the problems experienced by some users.

If any users experience similar problem with any link in any posts please let a moderator know.

Caps

Thu Aug 13 2009 8:36:32 #
Nimrod
Key Master

The Chairman of OCD Action has given this reply:

"OCD Action shares the concerns of a number of other organisations working to support carers. We feel that the move to personal budgets may see carers facing more of the cost of paying for care, where the presence of a carer means that the points allocated through the Resource Allocation System (RAS) are reduced, and the cared for person receives a smaller budget. We feel that this places too much pressure on the carer to continue caring, and does not give the family genuine choice about what balance of support is best for them.

We are monitoring the progress of this green paper and will certainly be discussing it further at our planned meeting with the care services minister in the new year. This meeting is part of the build up to OCD Week (6th -13th February 2010) where we will be campaigning on the issue."

Daniel Nabarro,
Chairman, OCD Action

Thu Aug 13 2009 9:49:56 #
swan
Member

Caps im glad to hear that ocdaction is taking this seriously thankyou.
Moocher/caps i didn't put an illegal conection onto the site i was given the link from a very reliable source. I would certainly not put anything illegal onto this site i take claiming beifits really seriously

Edit by Caps: There was a fault with the link and it did not load the webpage correctly. Sometimes this happens when transferring/copying links, I don't know why and our technical specialists can't give me an answer (or one that I can understand) but they agree it does happen. I am certain that there was no intention to give an illegal or incorrect link.

I believe (at the risk of an error) this is the correct link http://www.dh.gov.uk/prod_consum_dh/gro ... 102732.pdf

Caps

Fri Aug 14 2009 5:07:27 #
Moocher
Member

So does the green paper just refer to carers rather than people in receipt of incapacity?

I saw in the paper today that if the Conservatives win the next election they plan to get EVERYONE on incapacity back into work. And incapacity will automatically be reduced by Â£25pw for everyone.

I just hope they don't win the election. It'll be a nightmare won't it? How can a guy born with a silver spoon in his mouth, with no understanding of ordinary people, run the country?

Have you notice all the programmes that have been on TV recently about people claiming incapacity? They are meant to brainwash people into believing that everyone on incapacity is pulling a fast one. I do believe that the government ought to do more to get fraudulent claimants off benefits. But I think it's absolutely barbaric to go after people who are genuinely ill.

Mon Oct 5 2009 10:35:36 #
Unregistered

Moocher, I read that of the 2.6 million on Incapacity Benefit, David Cameron hopes up to 500,000 will be found fit to work and it will be those who will then be transferred to Jobseekers' which will mean a Â£25 a week cut. The problem is that some of those making decisions on individuals will pass many fit for work who might not be (especially those with mental health problems). Labour already proposes to test 10,000 Incapacity Benefit claimants per week anyway, in an attempt to get as many back to work as possible.

I don't know about those born with silver spoons, I think most politicians are out of touch with ordinary people. I don't think David Cameron can do any worse than the lot in power right now. Churchill was certainly born with a silver spoon, and I dread to think where we would be now but for him!!

Mon Oct 12 2009 14:56:19 #
Wombat140
Member

Why can't he? After all, this lot at least dealt with the bank crash reasonably well, and some other things, even recently. That leaves plenty of scope for the Tories to make an even worse mess of THEIR term if they get one. Sorry, off topic.

I do agree that Labour have been getting worse and worse on the question of benefits. There was that new law a few months back, where they said that single parents would have to start looking for work when their youngest child was eight. Otherwise they would get no benefits. There was some talk of letting the Jobcentre staff allow for special circumstances, for instance if the child was being educated at home because they weren't managing at school. But I imagine there will be targets to make sure they don't let many people off. There always are lately. A Select Committee recommended that that law be shelved, but the Government simply ignored that. Still, I can't imagine that the Tories would be any better on THAT. They really don't do benefits.

Wombat140

Fri Oct 16 2009 19:21:12 #
Moocher
Member

I heard that David Cameron planned to get everybody off incapacity if he got into power. It's absolutely ridiculous anyway. Where all the extra jobs are supposed to materalise from is beyond me.

I keep getting this dread feeling that I'm going to get a letter telling me to go to the social security office for an assessment and coming face to face with that barking Northern woman from Benefit Busters. "Why aren't you all queuing up outside McDonalds?" I couldn't go back to signing on again. I would rather have my fingernails pulled out with pliers.

Be a nightmare. David Cameron running the country and the Benefit Busters woman with her nagging voice "spurring me on" to find work. Both of them with their horrible, smug, smirking faces. Doesn't bear thinking about.

Mon Nov 2 2009 8:42:06 #