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  1. This is the first time I have ever used a forum and I came on here to see if anybody else worried about what I worried about.

    I've had OCD diagnosed for the last 4 years and am on antidepressants. I have been worrying about the same topic that you've been discussing and I feel horrified and ashamed I get these images. I know that in my heart I would never ever harm anybody but the sheer thought of "what if I have?" fills me with panic. I was around my friend's baby and left alone for no more than a minute and later that afternoon I began thinking what if I have? Then I would sit and close my eyes and try to remember every detail, writing it down over and over again in my notebook. I would get the image and feel disgusted, then start to panic thinking that perhaps I think it's okay cos it's in my head. I think, what if I want to because I've had this thought? I feel panicked, and sick, and think that i've done 'it' to the point of crying and sometimes i don't even know what 'it' is.

    I desparately want this to go away, I have cried so much to the point of sickness and it is destroying my realtionship with my boyfriend, the person I want to marry, because I am worried what if I am one of those bad people and I feel ashamed and frightened. I know in my heart I would never do such a thing and I certainly don't want to, so why do I get these thoughts? It's almost like I think about it so much, I believe it has happened.

    I'm really sad at the moment and I know that lots of others share what I am going through so I take comfort from that.

    Mon Jun 28 2010 20:34:47 #
  2. Hi Lauren,
    welcome to the forum
    Sorry you are feeling down and anxious. People here are really kind and its a good place to be able to talk without being judged and also to find out what kind of support there is outthere.
    Best wishes
    Jo x

    Mon Jun 28 2010 21:16:02 #
  3. Hi Lauren

    Sorry you are feeling low just now. I can tell you that you are not one of those bad people just the fact that these thoughts are making you so depressed disgusted and sad is proof enough. I too have experinced these "bad thoughts" and i know only too well how awful they make you feel. I am currently reading a book called "The imp of the Mind" by Lee Baer, this book concentrates mainly on this form of OCD and as i have recently started having these "Bad thoughts" again i have found it a tremendous help reading it. Everyone on here knows what you are going through and we are all here to help each other. If you need to talk just PM me.

    Take care

    Leigh X

    Tue Jun 29 2010 9:43:16 #
  4. Hello everyone, just like Lauren i am completely new to this kind of thing. I have never openly shared my fears or worries with anyone I dont know, so im a little scared about doing this, but here goes...
    When I was 8 years old, my brother was diagnosed with leukaemia at the age of 5, as you can probably imagine this turned myself and my family upside down. I was taken out of school and made to sterilise myself so as not to contaminate my brother if i was too go near him. I believe my OCD was triggered off here because before his illness I was a happy go lucky little girl, however since this age, i have always had some kind of worry everysingle day, whether it be, did I touch this or are my hands clean enough, or did I hurt/sexual abuse someone...the list goes on. Apart from these worries, im actually quite a fun , bubbly and confident girl to be around, but underneath im battling with my OCD. Not even my boyfriend knows because id be afraid of him leaving me. My brother is well and extremely healthy, but on the flip side, im now the one who is in need of help. When im out shopping, i worry i may see plasters on the floor that might lead me to imagining that ive touched it which will then lead to me contracting AIDS. When im near people who look like they are ill/gay (btw i have nothing against gay people) but I fear that I may contract a disease from them and I have to walk the other way. These images and thoughts scare the hell out of me because I am not the person my OCD is making me out to be!
    I worry that I have sex with strangers (even though I know I never would) and then will contract something.
    As im reading this back to myself, i wonder what people and close friends who dont know about my OCD or havi it themselves, would think of me
    Just recently i was at a friends summer party,we were all drinking and having a lovely time, I was not drinking that much but was enjoying the gorgeous weather and the atmosphere. However, my friend has a small boy. I was in the house helping him build his toy fire engine when suddenly his mother left the room. I panicked!! All sorts of intrusive images kept popping into my head. I then left the room to get away from the situation. About half an hour or so later i went back into the house with his mother to get something I had left, and I walked into the lounge and said hello again to the little boy, who was still playing happily on the carpet. I sat down for a little while as it was cooler in the house.To my horror his mother had walked out of the room again and left me alone with the little boy! I kept thinking to myself "fight your fears ad dontlet the OCD take control" so I stayed and preoccupied myself with building asmall part of the fire engine myself. Heads were popping round the door everynow and then but everyone was outside in the garden, which is the other side of the house. My boyfriend popped his head round to say hello an then disappered again. I didnt want to leave him unattended, because I am a very caring person and always worry about the well-being of others, so I stayed a little longer. I then remember getting up and standing by the kitchen door which is attached to the annex of the house, thinking to myself, someone please come in and sit with the boy so I can get rid of the anxiety! I could still hear people but could not see them. I went back into the house and sat down. The little boy called me over because he wanted help with his toy so begrudgingly i helped him.But I didnt watto because I was near him. All this time however I kept having intrusive thoughts that I was battling. Iknew that I would have never harmed the boy, but you hear about paedophiles and bad people in this world I was worried that I was capable of doing something so terrible when I know I would never harm a fly!
    I almost felt relieved when someone came into the room. I remember leaving the littleboy and saying goodbye when it was time to go, and he was happily still playing.
    Anyway the next morning when I woke up I had this immense feeling of anxiety was over me when I kept thinking "oh my god i abused the little boy". I could imagine the police getting involved, my friends and boyfriend never speaking to me again and I would be put in jail. All these thoughts happened at once! I was petrified. I froze. I could feel my heart punding as I frantically tried to retrace every single step. Did I drink too much, would I have done anything...i felt so guilty yet I couldnt remember doing anything other than sit on the table near the boy and help with his fire engine! I could remember the conversations and everything but I couldnt remember abusing him...was this my OCD playing havoc with my mind? Or had I done something so terrible that I just couldnt remember it????
    Even as Im typing this im in pieces because I was on my own with this boy. I eventually want children myself but I feel I would be such an awful mother for getting thoughts like these that I dont want any now. It upsets me so much because I now that I am the most caring person in the world, but the images I got the next morning of what I may have done made me feel sick to the core. My boyfriend had no idea what emotions I was feeling, but i was trying to quiz him, "was i ok when you saw me with the little boy last night"...everthing got clouded in my head because of the anxiety, it was like I was trying to make up something that happened that never actually did. Its torment that I am going through. Every morning since I have woken up with a sick feeling. I even saw the boys mother recently and I felt so guilty because I was having these intrusive thoughts and I have believed my OCD for thinking I actually carried out some horrible, disgusting act. I cant sleep or eat and its ruining my life.I would never harm a child but the images are so real!! My OCD is gettingthe better of me and I dont know how to stop it...

    Tue Jun 29 2010 11:15:11 #
  5. im sorry about the typing errors, some keys are sticking xx

    Tue Jun 29 2010 11:17:48 #
  6. Hi Debbie

    You poor poor thing!!!! i fully understand and have gone through everything you have spoke of infact i could have written it!! I am at work right now but will repy better later today just try to gain comfort form the fact that the reason you feel so bad is because you are not and never will be this person you fear you might be, OCD can be so cruel and the worst thing you could ever imagine doing will be the thing you OCD mind will pick out as a stick to beat you with.

    Take care and do stay in touch on here their are many people who can help you.

    Leigh

    Tue Jun 29 2010 12:10:18 #
  7. PS

    You have taken a huge step by writing on here and have shown that you have the courage to beat this!!

    Tue Jun 29 2010 12:11:41 #
  8. Thankyou Leigh

    Tue Jun 29 2010 12:16:58 #
  9. Hi Debbie

    I was moved reading your post it is almost a carbon copy of my OCD. I have worried about catching Aids to the point where i have had 3 HIV tests all negative of course!! I too worry ill sleep with people but in my case it is something that causes me fear as i would be cheating on my fiance. Your description of the few minutes you were left alone with the little boy is exactly how i have felt in the past wheni have been left alone with a child(including my own Childern). The panic inside longing for another adult to be with you then the tempoary releif when you are finally not alone but later leads to an overwhelming feeling of guilt that you may have done this terrible thing. If you find yourelf in this situation when you have been drinking it makes matters worse as you start beliving you can not rememeber doing that terrible thing and you dig into your mind to rememeber which leads to your mind making up false memories. I know these thoughts are the worst imaginable and i can feel my heart pounding just talking about it but it is only a thought its not the person you are or you would not feel so bad when you have them. A real Paedophile would enjoy and want to be left alone with a child and would carry out these terrible things and feel no remorse. I have been reading alot about this type of OCD and it is a very common type. Infact even people with out OCD have these thoughts but their non OCD minds just dimiss them as ridiculous and dont snowball them out of control.

    As i said to Lauern Your OCD will pick what most frightens and disgusts you and will torture you with it. and for you like many others the thought of abusing a child disgusts you. More so then the fears you have that you may sleep with a starnge or your fears of AIDS(not that these are not awful things to constantly worry about) and this is why you are struggling to deal with these particular thoughts your OCD is doing its job and you have to be stronger than it.

    Have you any support other then on this forum?

    I hope i have helped you in some way and my message box is always open should you want to talk.

    Take Care

    Leigh X

    Tue Jun 29 2010 20:14:25 #
  10. hi debbie
    like leigh said i could have wrote ur post myself my partner doesnt know the severety of my ocd neither and sadly i know i will never confide in him about that side of my life fairplay 2 people like leigh who have been brave enough 2 tell there partners lately i suppose im feeling a bit better but a couple mths ago i was in a dreadful place like u r now debbie and its thx 2 the wonderful support i have got on this forum and the excellent advice its a relieve in itself that ur not alone i spent yrs and yrs thinking i was this evil person sadly there r loads of people out there still thinking they r bad when they r not i know what u mean about thinking u would be a bad mum if u had kids 4 having these thoghts but u know they r jst thoughts as scary as they r u sound like u would be a gr8t mum im a mum and i used 2 beat myself up so much still do sometimes but at the end of the day its ur ocd tricking u in2 thinking ur something ur not i hope that this forum helps u as much as myself pm me anytime
    trish

    Wed Jun 30 2010 9:05:53 #
  11. Hi Leigh, Trish,

    Its so refreshing having people on here I can talk to without anyone judging me and were all going through the same things together or have experienced them at some point or another.
    A day doesnt go by where I dont have some kind of intrusive thought and then i end up beating myself up about it.
    Maybe one day I will open up to my partner but I want to conquer these demons and then be proud one day and say, I beat it!
    Hopefully we will all beat it at some point, but I do take comfort in the fact that I can talk to you both about issues and you dont think im an awful person

    I thank u both so much for your encouraging words xxx

    Wed Jun 30 2010 11:31:13 #
  12. Hi Debbie,

    Your worry about the little boy is what I have had with children and I completely understand what you are going through. The fact that you are so worried about it happening shows you would never do such a thing, these bad people who carry out these acts have no remorse, and they certainly would not speak to others about it. You have taken a massive step confiding in us and should feel proud of yourself. I went to my counsellor today and I spent the hour going through what had happened in that minute when my friend had left me with the baby. I remember feeling so relieved when she came back in, that the panic was just washed away. I totally understand what you are going through. I feel better reading all of your experiences and knowing that I am not on my own. I do not speak to others about my worries, I used to confide in my boyfriend who I trust implicity but this subject distresses him so I have stopped. I have worried about contracting HIV and like leigh I have taken tests which have all come back negative, and I have also worried about being sued for slander, whether I've said something I shouldn't, whether I've cheated on my boyfriend, and it seems that we all worry about the things that we are so desperate not to happen.

    perhaps we need to trust in ourselves more and have the belief that we are good people more xx

    Wed Jun 30 2010 19:46:01 #
  13. I had a terrible time a couple of years ago when my sexual "paranoia" as i call it started, since then it hasnt stopped and i thought i was perverted but also thought it could be my OCD playing tricks with my mind as it has in the past with many things. I read an article about 7 months after saying about how it was pretty common for people with OCD and felt so relieved, but it wasnt very clear and it has progressed more and more and has changed and developed. Reading this made me cry because everything was so true and so many things ive wondered about (like the thinking im feeling pleasure at my thoughts) have been cleared up a bit for me. Thank you so much! I think your play sounds like a great idea, things like this need to be out there to help people and raise awareness.

    Thu Jul 1 2010 0:32:29 #
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    I have just been reading the messages here. I am truly sorry for being away from the forum at the moment. It isn’t that I don’t care, I’m just struggling to cope. Hormones are all over the place with the menopause and I also have a recurrence of shingles. I will try to reply to my PMs within the next few days.

    I just want to reiterate something, hopefully without upsetting those with other symptoms. My life at the moment, due to the severity of my OCD and my physical health, is very tough. I am still struggling to do crazy things like washing clothes outside in the garden in my underwear (the one good thing is that my lack of clothes is actually quite comfortable this time of year, unlike in the winter!). I have been housebound for six months. However, there is no way I would swap any of the physical discomfort, and wasted hours doing pointless rituals, for a return of my intrusive thoughts.

    Family and friends are worried and shocked by what appears to be a rapid deterioration in my OCD, but the intrusive thoughts were worse for me. They were hidden from view so everyone thought I was fine. The hell is indescribable, as anyone going through this will know.

    My obsession burned itself out and I pray you all experience the same. In the meantime, I hope you gain some comfort from knowing you are far from alone. I was discussing this symptom with a friend in America, just this morning. We both feel this is probably the commonest OCD symptom, and obviously the most secret of all.

    I will be thinking of you. I hope we hear from Misty soon, hopefully her young son's OCD is responding to medication. I will reply to any PMs, but please don’t think I am ignoring you if I take a few days. I am not online every day at the moment.

    Love, Tricia x

    Thu Jul 1 2010 12:28:41 #
  15. hi tricia i hope that u feel better soon my thoughts r with u
    and i hope things will improve 4 u soon take good care of yourself
    trish xx

    Fri Jul 2 2010 20:53:10 #
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    Thank you, Trish. I am a little better. I'm really pleased that you are doing better than you were.

    I hope everyone else is coping. We've still heard no more from Misty about her son. Misty, I often think of you both, do please get in touch when you can.

    Tricia x

    Mon Jul 12 2010 13:48:11 #
  17. Hello all

    Tricia, what a great thread! I’m new here but ive been following this forum for a few days now and I thought I should share my experience in the hope that it will help others and to find comfort myself.

    Before I go into a long story about my battles with OCD, I just want to apologise for the long post. I would also like to start off by saying something positive, I had my first battle with this nightmare 8 years ago and I beat it, completely! So recovery is definitely possible. Unfortunately for me, after 7 free years, losing my mum last year means I’m now battling the same demons again but I have faith that I will conquer my anxiety/OCD once again and I want you all to know, you can too.

    So here goes, I first experienced OCD when I was 22, triggered by terrible things I read/ heard on the news about sexual abuse. (I guess I was sensitive to such news because of my own Sexual abuse experience which at the time I had never ever mentioned it to anyone)

    I recall the first night I had a panic attack, I was babysitting for my God daughter who was four at the time and for some reason I began to think about the news coverage and about my past experiences for the first time. I then asked myself many questions like, why would anyone in their right mind abuse a child , what do they find sexual about a child……….. And because I’d read that victims of child abuse can become abusers, the final question that has plagued my life since, ‘What if I became one’ before I knew it my mind was full of awful intrusive thoughts. And all at the same time, I got a groinal response, I felt sick, faint and I was literally floored, I was supposed to stay the night but I was so scared of my thoughts and the out of control feeling that as soon as the girls mummy came back I ran off home. I loved them dearly but after that day I truly felt like I never wanted to see them again.

    That was the beginning of my down spiral, I couldn’t fathom or understand what had happened to me in one night and my world had turned upside down. From then on, I would have terrible anxiety and panic every time I saw children. Also the ‘What if Question’ slowly became “I am” and I was convinced I would hurt kids. For month I continued to have anxiety/ panic attacks / the groinal response at the sight or distance noise of a child. I would spend all day in a daze, trying to understand what was happening to me, trying to control my mind but nothing worked. My mind had become a vacuum for all things disturbing; it would go from sexual thoughts to graphic violent thoughts, I was scared I would turn into my worse nightmare, the very awful things I hated about our society. It was so weird!

    I spent 4 month in therapy but all my thoughts and symptoms were put down to my sexual abuse history, in fact she never even mentioned anxiety once, let alone Intrusive Obsessive thoughts. Having lost faith in the therapist, I decided to scour the internet for information on depression forums because that was the only symptom I recognised at the time. Luckily someone on a forum told me about intrusive thoughts and recommended a book called ‘Imp of the Mind’. That was the beginning of my recovery, 7 years ago. Soon after, I was able to realise I was not mad, that I had an anxiety disorder and learned that Obsessive thinking was how it chose to manifested itself in me. From that day onwards, I stopped fighting the thought because I labelled them OCD/ Anxiety thoughts AND just like that they disappeared.

    And for 7 years, I was free of such thoughts, I never looked back. Occasionally, me and my best friend would discuss my experience and laugh at some of my most ludicrous thoughts I had. I was convinced I was a lesbian, a psychopath, you name it, I was it! I never ever thought it would return. Unlucky for me, last year I lost my dear mum after a long battle with cancer, at the time I thought I was coping well with the loss but in hindsight there were a lot of things I was experiencing that suggested I was on the slippery slope back in to OCD hell hole. I had begun to beat myself up, convinced myself I was bad daughter when there was nothing more I could have done for her. I was also having intrusive thoughts like, digging her out of her grave to see her again – ( And in the same way the sexual thoughts felt so real, that too felt real, like I would lose control and dig my mummy out) It was scary stuff!
    I never recognised it as OCD until about 6 month later; once again, the news was dominated by terrible news about a woman who’d abused some kids in her care. When I was reading it, I was disturbed that a woman could do that and before I knew it, I got the groinal feeling, I panicked and had an intense anxiety attack. I desperately tried to implement all that I had previously learned by reminding myself it was OCD but I began to succumb to it and before I knew it, I was having attacks whenever I saw children, and it’s been down hill since.

    Now, 8 month on, I’m still suffering, I’ve read many books, I understand my condition but for some reason I can’t seem to apply the knowledge, some days I feel on top of it and can see it’s all a pile of B.S then I crash bang and my obsessive thoughts just get worse. And because it won’t go away, I keep thinking what if it’s not OCD and what if I’m actually a flawed person who is evil deep down etc. Sometimes, I actually believe that I am my thoughts and this breaks my heart!

    Will it go away again? How do I apply what I know to get better again? Where I am going wrong? If you know please give me a shout. I am seeing a therapist but if anyone has a great one to recommends one in London please give me a shout.
    I apologies for the long post and thank you for taking time out to read my post.

    Tue Jul 13 2010 20:48:47 #
  18. Hi Ibelieve,

    Welcome to the forum.

    We're a friendly forum and try to help and support each other. I've found it a great source of help and support. I hope that you will too.

    Sorry this was so brief but my OCD is playing up and I've got masses to do before I can get to bed, but I wanted to welcome you to the forum.

    Best wishes
    Trudy

    Tue Jul 13 2010 21:15:14 #
  19. Hi Ibelieve,

    Welcome to the forum, I hope you find it helpful. And don't apologise for the length of the post - post as much as you like, that is what the forum is for. Here's a tip; if you have a long post it can be helpful to type it on the wordprocessor or similar then copy and paste it to the forum form. That way if the forum throws a wobble you won't loose your post before you have sent it and you don't have to finish it all in one go.

    Best wishes,
    Caps

    Wed Jul 14 2010 7:13:54 #
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    Dear Ibelieve, Welcome to the forum.

    It must have felt wonderful when the thoughts stopped. I’m so sorry to hear they have returned and don’t appear to be improving.

    I’m also very sorry to hear about your mum. I lost my dad to cancer and my OCD became extremely bad afterwards. It’s understandable that yours returned.

    I have a very dear friend who was sexually abused as a child and who now suffers this terrible paedophilia obsession. She read a book about a young boy who was sexually abused and I do wonder if this triggered her latest obsession. We hear that some people who are abused as children go on to abuse and this has affected my friend so badly. She can’t shake the fear that she really is a paedophile (despite her sheer revulsion). It’s obvious to me that it’s the last thing she is and it is heart-rending to hear her cry and know she is tormented by this day and night. I think the news about the woman abusing children in a nursery affected a lot of women with OCD. Please don’t think this is a sexist remark, but I believe many women thought paedophiles were all men (or at least the vast majority).

    Have you considered medication? I have a friend who found an SSRI reduced the thoughts to a manageable degree and after a few months they stopped altogether.

    I don’t think you are doing anything wrong. You have even more understanding now about OCD. It’s the same for me, I overcame it years ago, but the same techniques are not working for me now. I ask myself what I am doing differently. I hope you can find a good therapist to guide you and please do keep in touch with us all here. You know we understand your pain and just being able to share your fears does help. By the way, as Caps said, no need to apologize for a long message. I wish everyone would write long messages. Many people just read messages and don’t post, it helps them to read about other sufferers' experiences. If messages are too brief they are not as helpful.

    Tricia x

    Wed Jul 14 2010 13:13:32 #
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    P.S. I've just realized you are seeing a therapist. You asked if anyone knew of a good one in the London area. Is the one you are seeing up on this form of OCD?

    Wed Jul 14 2010 13:19:58 #
  22. Hi Tricia

    I think we talked ages ago when i was on this site (ocdstu)
    wow your post is great and yes it exactly what i have been sufferin for every second for 12yrs... just come on site as i was loooopin bad and read your post. It has reminded me it my OCD NOT ME, although im being tricked back into thinking it is me.
    Im even getting thoughts tht are not true lol omg wht a mess........ confused stu xxxx

    Thu Jul 15 2010 9:37:10 #
  23. Hi there Trudie, Caps and Tricia

    Thank you for your welcoming messages, I appreciate the support. I totally agree with you, it's very helpful for suffers because realising you’re not alone is great comfort as you are all aware.

    But I can understand it’s not easy for everyone to post, I’ve only ever posted a handful of times myself, 7 years ago, the forum on the stuck in the door way site was my solace, it was the words and encouragement of people that helped me realise and understand my condition and recover - i never even saw a therapist.

    However, this time around, it’s been really hard for me to post for two reasons, one being that I get so paranoid that someone will use the information against me and they will lock me up etc. And the other thing is mainly to do with reassurance, I know when I post I am seeking reassurance and I feel it’s important to break that habit to get better. Does that make sense?

    At the same time, I do feel the need to really help others in my situation. I actually feel like going back to school to study psychology so I can help people like us. I really think there is a shortage of therapists that deal with OCD in the UK and I live in London. Do correct me if I’m wrong here.

    In my experience, I’ve come across a few therapists over the last few months who say they treat OCD, but I get there and I can tell they’ve never heard of sexual obsessions or if they have, they are equally as perplexed as I am about the groinal response that inflics mnay. – And that is not comforting for someone trying to seek reassurance from a professional.

    I’ve had three therapists tell me because I don’t have any compulsions, I can’t possibly have OCD and because of my sexual abuse past, they’re always quick to pin everything on that. I’m now on my fourth therapist and while she seems to understand OCD and diagnosed me as OCD on my first session, she said the groinal response is most like due to memory of the abuse. But because I know that not everyone who suffers like me was abused, I instantly began to doubt her credibility and lost confidence. I just want a therapist to explain to me why I get the horrible groinal reaction – that for me is the hardest symptom to deal with, if that went; I know I could beat this demon.

    I am continuing to see the fourth therapist and she assures me, I have OCD and she’s not about to call the police on me but there is the niggling thought at the back of my head that questions whether she knows what she’s talking about. If someone knows therapist who understands it all, do let me know.

    Thank you again for letting me share.

    x

    Thu Jul 15 2010 12:05:18 #
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    Dear Ibelieve, The response you are so concerned about is very common with this OCD symptom and also the obsession of being gay. I’m not sure if I have given the following link on this thread already, but try reading the following article, it’s about gay fears, but the physical sensations that reinforce your concern are identical.

    http://www.ocdonline.com/articlephillipson7.php

    I don’t believe that there are enough therapists with experience of OCD, especially symptoms like this. Many people talk about the groinal responses and most have not been sexually abused. I'm wary of writing this, but we do all have to be aware that there are many ignorant therapists out there. I am so reluctant to say this, because it could make people wary of seeking help, but I think it’s better to go to a therapist with this knowledge than to believe what every bad therapist says. With the guidance of very good books and by sharing experiences on forums such as this, we can usually tell whether a therapist really knows what he or she is doing.

    Tricia x

    Thu Jul 15 2010 12:52:09 #
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    P.S. When I suffered similar intrusive thoughts I had no compulsions. Obviously I didn’t have OCD then, either! Seriously, they are wrong! Some therapists I have seen have told me the most ridiculous things. It makes me wonder what advice people received when so little was known about OCD. Actually, I know, because I saw a child psychiatrist in the 60s who knew nothing and based all therapy on Freud’s wacky theories and psychoanalysis.

    I do understand how you are concerned that visiting sites is a form of reassurance. I do believe we all need some reassurance, though, especially with a symptom such as this. To continue to rely on reassurance will almost certainly be counterproductive, but I know of people who said they would have been driven to suicide without reassurance when they were at their worst.

    Thu Jul 15 2010 13:06:46 #
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    P.P.S. I hope you do study psychology! I would like to, but I have left it too late.

    Thu Jul 15 2010 13:09:52 #
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    Dear Stu, Yes I do indeed remember you! Oh my God, 12 years…

    What help are you receiving, Stu?

    Tricia x

    Thu Jul 15 2010 13:12:10 #
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    Hi Ibelieve

    I agree with what Tricia has said. In my opinion, it is essential to find a professional (like my therapist) who has direct experience of your type of OCD.

    We are all individuals and what works for one OCDer does not necessarily work for another. Your type of OCD needs different treatment from mine. Some sufferers (like me - a contaminationer) can work at a faster pace than others. Some (also me) have really bad and long held obsessive thoughts as well as compulsions, and facing the fears and stopping doing the compulsions does not necessarily get rid of the thoughts. So therapy can go on for months.

    If you are going private, the way to test out if your therapist is right for you is to ring up the therapist and ask if s/he has the relevant experience before you make an appointment. This is what I did this time round and was really pleased with the result. My therapist is Maudsley trained to a very high standard and has given me her phone number so I can ring if things get really bad.

    All the best with getting back your control.

    Anne

    Thu Jul 15 2010 13:18:39 #
  29. I'm a long-time OCD sufferer. Currently grappling with a recurrence of some issues, after a long, happy period of minimal disruption. I registered because I've found OCD Action and other sites very helpful in the past. Also because I have a fantastic therapist - who works with a leading OCD/Anxiety team at a London teaching hospital. I'm lucky because I can afford his private fees - but I think what he's taught me is worth sharing.

    This might give the original poster and others reassurance:

    Intrusive thoughts of harm to loved others/children/self/strangers, as well as thoughts of swerving cars off road, sexual doubts, cleanliness, infection with HIV, shouting profanities in public etc - are extremely common in the human population. Numerous studies/surveys show this.

    Intrusive thoughts are not a problem. Many people (without OCD) think the most gruesome things and simply ignore them or possibly don't even notice them. Why? Because they don't attach any importance to them - and therefore don't feel anxious about them.

    Those of us with OCD do attach importance to these thoughts - we worry that they may happen. This makes us feel anxious. We interpret the anxiety we feel as 'proof' that there is credibility in the thoughts. We try to stop the thoughts - and as you'll find out trying not to think about something always makes you think about it. Famous example - 'don't think of a white bear'. What are you thinking off? You guessed it!

    My therapist's strategy for intrusive thoughts of all kinds (Four years ago I had sexual doubts, years ago I had 'harm' thoughts - now I'm back on 'harm' and have become fearful of losing control while driving) - is to acknowledge them if you notice them, but not to engage with them. YOu can try saying - 'I'm having an intrusive thought'. He actually encourages me to say neutral things like - 'that is possible' - 'maybe, there's no way of knowing'. what you mustn't do is try to 'argue' out the case. This reassurance is equivalent to a physical compulsion.

    It's not easy - BUT - it does work. Maybe not forever - but I no longer worry about sexuality (I'd struggle to even if i tried). Why? Not because I proved my sexuality beyond doubt, but because I accepted 'uncertainty'.

    Sorry, I've rambled on - hope this helps in some way. happy to share more. Also hugely recommend David Veale book on OCD

    Stay strong and remember the thoughts are just that.

    Thu Jul 15 2010 14:33:28 #
  30. Dear ibelieve,

    I have worried about exactly the same thing as you, you may have read my thread on here, I haven't been on for a while. The therapists who said you don't have OCD are totally wrong, the fact that you have these thoughts that are distressing you and go round in circles and torment you are compulsions of their own, just because you can't see them doesn't mean you don't have them. Often, when I get an image or a thought, I have a short term solution which is to check what i've said or done, and I record my actions and I write them down. This goes round in a circle and I totally believe this is a compulsion because I feel better for like, two minutes, I feel relieved having done them, and then I need to do them again shortly after. I found once I'd confided on here I had so much support from people, especially Triciam who has so much going on in her life but still she helps all of us. Say whatever you feel you need to, if you ever want to message me priavtely you can do too. Take care, lauren x

    Wed Jul 21 2010 11:01:14 #

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